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	<title>Comments on: Patron Deities</title>
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		<title>By: Yvonne</title>
		<link>http://heathenblog.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/patron-deities/#comment-9155</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know whether or not patron deities are related to monotheistic thinking (I would have thought that this would only be the case if you were a strict henotheist) but I personally find the concept unhelpful in many ways, as it creates expectations in people that they will find a patron deity, which may not be met.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know whether or not patron deities are related to monotheistic thinking (I would have thought that this would only be the case if you were a strict henotheist) but I personally find the concept unhelpful in many ways, as it creates expectations in people that they will find a patron deity, which may not be met.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
		<link>http://heathenblog.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/patron-deities/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-)  That&#039;s really neat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:-)  That&#8217;s really neat!</p>
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		<title>By: Bernulf</title>
		<link>http://heathenblog.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/patron-deities/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no associations like what you are talking about. With me, it&#039;s like my nose starts working, then my mind just interprets what&#039;s in the air...almost like the claircognizance is tickled or triggered by my nose. I think if I had the associations that you&#039;ve got, I&#039;d go nuts :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no associations like what you are talking about. With me, it&#8217;s like my nose starts working, then my mind just interprets what&#8217;s in the air&#8230;almost like the claircognizance is tickled or triggered by my nose. I think if I had the associations that you&#8217;ve got, I&#8217;d go nuts :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
		<link>http://heathenblog.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/patron-deities/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very interesting!  Do you associate certain smells with certain concepts (concrete or abstract)?  For example, my visual association is so strong (or twisted, or whatever) that I associate colors with things like numbers, letters, scientific theories, etc.  I get a &quot;flash&quot; of the color when I think of the concept.  9 is golden-orange, 4 is brick red, &quot;D&quot; is brown, newtonian mechanics is white, etc.  :-)  Do you experience anything similar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very interesting!  Do you associate certain smells with certain concepts (concrete or abstract)?  For example, my visual association is so strong (or twisted, or whatever) that I associate colors with things like numbers, letters, scientific theories, etc.  I get a &#8220;flash&#8221; of the color when I think of the concept.  9 is golden-orange, 4 is brick red, &#8220;D&#8221; is brown, newtonian mechanics is white, etc.  :-)  Do you experience anything similar?</p>
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		<title>By: Bernulf</title>
		<link>http://heathenblog.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/patron-deities/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd that you should mention the sense of smell, as that&#039;s another one of my tendencies - I&#039;ve always seen it as a part of my totemic connection to Bear, but have never considered it a &lt;i&gt;channel of input&lt;/i&gt;, as you call it. It mainly warns me when trouble&#039;s around, and very rarely I&#039;ve managed to use it to determine &#039;what&#039;s on the winds&#039; for the future. I always figured I was alone in the world with that sort of perception (&lt;i&gt;read: crazy&lt;/i&gt;). 

No worries if it takes you a while to comment...you&#039;re right, I know exactly how it goes :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd that you should mention the sense of smell, as that&#8217;s another one of my tendencies &#8211; I&#8217;ve always seen it as a part of my totemic connection to Bear, but have never considered it a <i>channel of input</i>, as you call it. It mainly warns me when trouble&#8217;s around, and very rarely I&#8217;ve managed to use it to determine &#8216;what&#8217;s on the winds&#8217; for the future. I always figured I was alone in the world with that sort of perception (<i>read: crazy</i>). </p>
<p>No worries if it takes you a while to comment&#8230;you&#8217;re right, I know exactly how it goes :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
		<link>http://heathenblog.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/patron-deities/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds wonderful, Bernulf.  (Sorry to take so long getting back to this -- you know how it is. :-) )  It sounds like you have a strong connection, something so few people have.

As far as visualization vs. claircognizance, different people have different preferred channels of input (as my wife learned in cognitive science).  Some people really go for visualization, others for audio, others for direct knowledge like yourself, still others for the sense of touch or smell.  I use visualization almost exclusively -- to the extent that I almost never hear anything in my &quot;visions&quot;.  My wife, on the other hand, can &quot;hear&quot; voices quite well but can&#039;t visualize to save her life.  Most of the meditation products out there today focus on visualization, but that really does a disservice to those whose preferred channel is something different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds wonderful, Bernulf.  (Sorry to take so long getting back to this &#8212; you know how it is. :-) )  It sounds like you have a strong connection, something so few people have.</p>
<p>As far as visualization vs. claircognizance, different people have different preferred channels of input (as my wife learned in cognitive science).  Some people really go for visualization, others for audio, others for direct knowledge like yourself, still others for the sense of touch or smell.  I use visualization almost exclusively &#8212; to the extent that I almost never hear anything in my &#8220;visions&#8221;.  My wife, on the other hand, can &#8220;hear&#8221; voices quite well but can&#8217;t visualize to save her life.  Most of the meditation products out there today focus on visualization, but that really does a disservice to those whose preferred channel is something different.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernulf</title>
		<link>http://heathenblog.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/patron-deities/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you remember correctly, Njord is my &lt;i&gt;fulltrúi&lt;/i&gt; among the gods. Others seem to have more of a conversational contact with Njord, my contact with him has mostly been along the lines of an inner harmonizing that&#039;s so far been pretty difficult to put into words. I have the advantage of living in a city that&#039;s situated right up against the North Sea...his influence here may not be quite so strong as in the Baltic areas, but it&#039;s still considerable here (and certainly much stronger than in the desert where I grew up!). 

When I&#039;m resonant with Njord, I don&#039;t necessarily need the conversational style of contact because I can pretty much feel and understand what I&#039;m needing to do already. A good example of this would be when I dedicated myself to his service on the tidal flats of the North Sea...a part of this dedication involved scratching my intentions into the tidal flats with the Runes. Shortly after I did this, I realized that although it was nice for me to take this extra formality, my devotion to Njord had been apparent to him for some time before then. A quality known to be possessed by the Vanir is that they have the gift of foresight...I think this is why my communication with Njord comes in the form of simply knowing, in a sort of &lt;i&gt;claircognizant&lt;/i&gt; sort of way, rather than conversing outright. Like I said, harmonizing...and not easy to put to words :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you remember correctly, Njord is my <i>fulltrúi</i> among the gods. Others seem to have more of a conversational contact with Njord, my contact with him has mostly been along the lines of an inner harmonizing that&#8217;s so far been pretty difficult to put into words. I have the advantage of living in a city that&#8217;s situated right up against the North Sea&#8230;his influence here may not be quite so strong as in the Baltic areas, but it&#8217;s still considerable here (and certainly much stronger than in the desert where I grew up!). </p>
<p>When I&#8217;m resonant with Njord, I don&#8217;t necessarily need the conversational style of contact because I can pretty much feel and understand what I&#8217;m needing to do already. A good example of this would be when I dedicated myself to his service on the tidal flats of the North Sea&#8230;a part of this dedication involved scratching my intentions into the tidal flats with the Runes. Shortly after I did this, I realized that although it was nice for me to take this extra formality, my devotion to Njord had been apparent to him for some time before then. A quality known to be possessed by the Vanir is that they have the gift of foresight&#8230;I think this is why my communication with Njord comes in the form of simply knowing, in a sort of <i>claircognizant</i> sort of way, rather than conversing outright. Like I said, harmonizing&#8230;and not easy to put to words :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
		<link>http://heathenblog.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/patron-deities/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 19:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you have dedicated yourself to Njord, am I remembering rightly?  Do you consider him a patron?  Have you been in contact with him?  (If I may ask!  I have no doubt that might be a personal topic for some.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you have dedicated yourself to Njord, am I remembering rightly?  Do you consider him a patron?  Have you been in contact with him?  (If I may ask!  I have no doubt that might be a personal topic for some.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bernulf</title>
		<link>http://heathenblog.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/patron-deities/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s something that I find really interesting, and it&#039;s something that I&#039;ve never really given much thought to, that different gods would have different priorities when asked what the most important qualities in a human being are! It makes perfect sense, but that&#039;s seeing things from a perspective I&#039;d not yet allowed my mind to delve into. 

It also makes perfect sense that, when the questions turn toward you or your life in specific, that the two gods would work as a team and deliver a similar message, if not in similar style :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s something that I find really interesting, and it&#8217;s something that I&#8217;ve never really given much thought to, that different gods would have different priorities when asked what the most important qualities in a human being are! It makes perfect sense, but that&#8217;s seeing things from a perspective I&#8217;d not yet allowed my mind to delve into. </p>
<p>It also makes perfect sense that, when the questions turn toward you or your life in specific, that the two gods would work as a team and deliver a similar message, if not in similar style :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
		<link>http://heathenblog.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/patron-deities/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 10:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure it would depend on the question.  If I asked them, for example, what were the most important qualities in a human being, they might give different answers.  But I think when it comes to the most important questions for me right now -- concerning my life and personal projects -- they&#039;re on the same page.  I get the feeling that Apollo sort of debriefed Athena ahead of time.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure it would depend on the question.  If I asked them, for example, what were the most important qualities in a human being, they might give different answers.  But I think when it comes to the most important questions for me right now &#8212; concerning my life and personal projects &#8212; they&#8217;re on the same page.  I get the feeling that Apollo sort of debriefed Athena ahead of time.  :-)</p>
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